Sunday, April 30, 2006

Tidbit for Thought

Was walking to the grocery store the other day and passed a group of Immigrant Rights supporters. This group identified as Socialists and one of their banners stated, "No human is illegal." Now, call me crazy, but does it seem strange to anyone else that a group calling themselves Socialists would cite to some sort of "higher law" like they did? Certainly someone could be illegal under positive law, so their statement could only make sense if they believe in some higher moral law in which all men share equally as legal citizens. Yet don't most Socialists scorn the very idea of a higher law? Marx did say that religion is the "opiate of the masses." Perhaps the higher law is grounded in something else: rationality? But didn't a higher law grounded in rationality lead to the very burgeois system the Socialists eschewed? Perhaps I'm forgetting some basic tenet of Socialism or something, but I'm pretty sure there's some incongruity there. I would find any explanations or corrections helpful.

4 comments:

Anonymous said...

I say we make it illegal to be osama...he justifiably is an illegal person

Anonymous said...

The slogan is rethoric (not factual) aimed at changing public opinion and the decisions of authorities (in the broadest sense). Its certainly not construing US Law, or even atempting to defend a natural law doctrine. After all, its just a banner. Please excuse if I am stating the obvious but otherwise we might make a straw man out of it, unintentionally.

Its an emotional appeal that in theory, should shock people into realizing that its immoral (inapropriate etc) to call somebody illegal, when its a person and thus its expected to have some "dignity"

That fight for human dignity is pretty central to socialism, there´s the whole "alienation" issue there. Consider that that foreing capital, produced by workers is welcome much more easily anywhere in the world.

Thats my idea about how it is consistent

Anonymous said...

I think you may be looking at this from an overly doctrinaire position. Socialism has evolved into many subgroups, with competing ideologies. Some adherents of liberation theology fall into categories of socialism, for example (socialism as a derivative of religious obligation). The Gandhian ashram is essentially a socialist ideal: moral codes have been used to promote socialist policies in the past, and there's no reason to think that they are inherently incompatible unless one thinks, ironically enough, of Marx as Gospel.

That's frankly a fundamental error that could only be made by someone with a superficial understanding of socialism as a concept.

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